"He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in jesus"

The reason for this was:

" ...displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. To demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; for the demonstration of his righteousness at the present time,"

This particular passage is loaded with visual words, earlier:

• Has been manifested
• witnessed
• displayed
• publicly
  
• demonstrate
• demonstration

Also the re-iterated topic here is: righteousness.

• ...apart from the Law, righteousness of God has ...
• ...witnessed by the law and hte Prophets, even righteousness of God...
• ... demonstrate his righteousness
• ...for the demonstration of His righteousness at the present time...

These two ideas are associated with the first statement. That somehow it should be shown, that it would be displayed that God the father is Just, and the Justifier.

Why two? Why just and justifier? Why is it important that God be just and the justifier? Well let's consider this:

God is the justifier : this a fine phrase, but the idea that one might get is that God is patching up some mistake that his people made or that he made.

God is Just: well, this is an attribute of God, how he dispenses appropriate response to appropriate action.

So lets talk about some combinations. If god justified people, but he was not just, it sounds like he is cheating the system. If god was just, it might imply taht he is just, but there is another way to be justified out side of his will, power or scope. This would lead to all sorts of other bad theology.

In what ways am I showing God the father as Just and the Justifier in this life? Where then is anger, knowing that God is Just, and god is Justifying.

The other hting interesting about this passage is that it says: demonstrate his righteousness at the present time. Why isn't this passage talking about demonstrate his "justice" at the present time. Or demonstrate his "compassion" at the present time. Why righteousness. And how do you demonstrate righteousness?

It would seem that I am digging myself a deeper and deeper hole.

Perhaps sacrificing oneself on the cross is demonstrating righteousness, then the second phrase is referring to say, our display of christian values and virtue here. And our behavior that we display is the demonstration of righteousness. How do you demonstrate that quality of a person. That quality is not like a character trait or habit, it is like a purity of human being.

BLargh. Ill have to come back to this later

What does the bible say about thinking?

I read books on economic thinking.
I read books on doctor's thinking.
I read books on teacher's thinking.

Many people claim the horrors and disasters of TV, unfiltered advertisements or even the lack of literature. Side effects cannot be clearly sighted, but all claim a sub-conscious altering of the mind, the patterns and rails of thought patterns being hijacked by over-planned media and capitalism.

But Really.

What does the bible say of our thought patterns?

The bible does talk about the heart, talks about the machinations of the putrid evil of the faithless. But does it talk about logic, fact, cognition? It talks about blindness, but is that a heart issue or a lack of a logical thought process?

And, if we should consider ourselves responsibile christians, how should we go about these processes.

Guesses:
Look at "dwell", "consider", "ponder", and I would even submit "wait"